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Post by GF14 on Nov 5, 2014 7:34:55 GMT -8
National League
C Yadier Molina, Cardinals 1B Adrian Gonzalez, Dodgers 2B DJ LeMahieu, Rockies 3B Nolan Arenado, Rockies SS Andrelton Simmons, Braves LF Christian Yelich, Marlins CF Juan Lagares, Mets RF Jason Heyward, Braves P Zack Greinke, Dodgers
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American League
C Salvador Perez, Royals 1B Eric Hosmer, Royals 2B Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox 3B Kyle Seager, Mariners SS J.J. Hardy, Orioles LF Alex Gordon, Royals CF Adam Jones, Orioles RF Nick Markakis, Orioles P Dallas Keuchel, Astros
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Post by GF14 on Nov 5, 2014 7:40:19 GMT -8
Actually looks pretty good. Probably would have gone Lucroy over Yadi, especially given the extra 50 or so games he played. Nothing really stands out though. Would have been pretty awesome for Pablo to win a gold glove. That guy played some great defense this year and Arenado missed quite a bit of time.
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Post by kab21 on Nov 5, 2014 8:13:02 GMT -8
I can't make a legitimate argument for one Twin receiving consideration for this list. The Twins have built an entire team around poor defenders combined with a pitch to contact staff. That has yielded awesome results so far.
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Post by GF14 on Nov 5, 2014 9:01:08 GMT -8
In a world without Andrelton Simmons, Brandon Crawford would/should be a multiple GG winner. I could see Pablo winning one, but I think people just assume he's not as good as he is due to his size. Given a full season I could see Belt winning one as well, 1B right now is very much lacking in good defenders.
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Post by ayebatter on Nov 5, 2014 22:55:44 GMT -8
Hmmmmm
Simmons UZR 15.5 Peralta UZR 12.0 Cozart UZR 12.1 Rollins UZR 3.7 Tejada UZR 3.0 Crawford UZR 1.0
Peralta WAR 5.4 Desmond WAR 4.1 Rollins WAR 3.6 Hanley WAR 3.4 Castro WAR 2.9 Crawford WAR 2.7
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Post by ayebatter on Nov 6, 2014 8:38:58 GMT -8
Hmmmmm
Uribe UZR 12.6 Frazier UZR 6.5 Arenado UZR 6.0 Rendon UZR 4.2 Pablo UZR 3.5
Rendon WAR 6.6 Harrison WAR 4.9 Frazier WAR 4.7 Carpenter WAR 3.8 Pablo WAR 3.0
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Post by GF14 on Nov 6, 2014 10:10:38 GMT -8
Clearly something is wrong if Jhonny Peralta is near the top of that list. Also lol at using one year defensive metrics and thinking that anyone takes them into account in gold glove voting.
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Post by ayebatter on Nov 6, 2014 12:33:01 GMT -8
In a world without Andrelton Simmons, Brandon Crawford would/should be a multiple GG winner. I could see Pablo winning one, but I think people just assume he's not as good as he is due to his size. Given a full season I could see Belt winning one as well, 1B right now is very much lacking in good defenders. lol clearly there's not enough Gold Gloves to go around when the giant fans are looking thru the orange colored glasses.
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Post by tavish on Nov 7, 2014 15:40:10 GMT -8
Clearly something is wrong if Jhonny Peralta is near the top of that list. Also lol at using one year defensive metrics and thinking that anyone takes them into account in gold glove voting. Using multiple years isn't going to turn out much better for your argument. Especially for Panda.
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